Community Project | Cardinal Menu System Instructions, Help, and Discussion

Dean · Jul 8, 2019, 9:35 PM

HI,

As usual, I'm late to the party and have only just discovered this gem. I have two questions:

Is it still under active development?
Do you plan to release a version for 4.22?

Thanks

Thaddeus · Jul 9, 2019, 4:57 AM

@dean Yeah, we plan on developing further but the project has been on standby until Epic releases their new online sessions stuff. We don't want to re-invent the wheel if something big changes with the engine. Upgrading to the next engine versions should be fairly easy. You might have to download each plugin individually though. The gamepad plugin is having issues, though.

Dean · Jul 9, 2019, 1:54 PM

@thaddeus Thanks. I look forward to seeing where you take this very cool initiative.

Guest · Aug 19, 2019, 8:03 PM

Has anyone used this with a dedicated server. I would like to have this menu setup, but I would like to run a dedicated server and not hosted servers

Thaddeus · Aug 22, 2019, 7:14 PM

said in Community Project | Cardinal Menu System Instructions, Help, and Discussion:

Has anyone used this with a dedicated server. I would like to have this menu setup, but I would like to run a dedicated server and not hosted servers

Yes, I've heard back from a few people who have modified this project to use dedicated servers. We have been waiting for Epic to further develop their new online sessions system. I think they are targeting the end of the year but it seems like they are making slow progress on its release.

Guest · Aug 31, 2019, 5:04 PM

Hello, I´m testing the project in unreal 4.21 with two diferent steam accounts and network connections. I´ve always got the same problem the ping is "-". In addition, If I' tried to get the real ping. I mean removing login in the ping plugin widget, I have always a 9999 ping. Somebody has the same problem?, How can I get the right ping?. By the way, thank metahusk for this template.

Thaddeus · Aug 31, 2019, 5:52 PM

The 9999 ping is because Epic only has it working for dedicated servers. Also, the ping plugin has been having issues on some setups and that's why it throws a "-" or a "?". Sometimes after a while the actual ping will show up. I think they are firewall issues. I know some Wireless Access Points will block the ping traffic along with some local and network firewalls. The ping plugin is simple and doesn't have a way to open ports automatically. Using it on a VPS linux machine to host, I haven't had issues. But I haven't used wireshark or anything to try and discover why some Windows machines are having issues. The ping plugin has gone out of support with the original developer. They are using a much older version of UE4 with their project. Personally, I've been waiting for Epic's new online framework to investigate further. If you figure out how to get it to work on your setup, tell us what was blocking the ping and what you did to get it to work?

ITACHI · Sep 22, 2019, 8:37 PM

Is there a way I can change the character to my own without breaking the whole thing?

hancuk · Sep 22, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Thaddeus · Sep 22, 2019, 8:37 PM

@itachi said in Community Project | Cardinal Menu System Instructions, Help, and Discussion:

Is there a way I can change the character to my own without breaking the whole thing?

Yes, it works similarly to any free project out there. The character is just spawned server side in a blueprint. The "multiplayer" side of the game isn't anything special. You just have to find all references to the character being spawned and change them.

ThirdPersonExample contains the example "game" blueprints. Off the top of my head, ThirdPersonGameMode set the default Pawn Class and Controller Class. They load ThirdPersonCharacter and ThirdPersonPlayerController.

For a multiplayer game, you'd have to design all the multiplayer logic like how the server decides to spawn your players and so on.

ITACHI · Sep 23, 2019, 5:47 PM

I've been trying to completely recreate the project in unreal engine 4.23 but I'm having a problem with the Enum_Maps it in game instead of showing with the names it show 0 1 2 do you know what the problem could be?

Thaddeus · Sep 23, 2019, 7:45 PM

@itachi said in Community Project | Cardinal Menu System Instructions, Help, and Discussion:

I've been trying to completely recreate the project in unreal engine 4.23 but I'm having a problem with the Enum_Maps it in game instead of showing with the names it show 0 1 2 do you know what the problem could be?

It sounds like a bug with migration between the engine versions. Maybe recreating the blueprint will help? Or dropping the node that calls the enums again. I've seen various bugs like this in the past. I was hoping Epic would get their new online framework released but they recently announced they delayed it. That's why this project is on standby.

ITACHI · Sep 23, 2019, 10:39 PM

@thaddeus I deleted my ones and migrated over the ones from the 4.21 version and that seemed to fix it. I'm not exactly sure what was causing the problem.

ITACHI · Sep 23, 2019, 10:56 PM

I'm having another issue now where the character loads into the world but you can't control it at all.

Thaddeus · Sep 23, 2019, 7:49 PM

@itachi 4.23.0 probably has bugs that need to be fixed with its first patch. Generally I try to wait until at least the x.x.1 release or further depending on how many new features they put in place. I've noticed development of the engine and community participation has slowed a lot over the past couple years. I wouldn't be surprised if there's still some weird bugs that can be difficult to sort out until some of the very experienced or big projects come across it.

I think they changed the method player controller takes control of a character. I remember someone posting about that. I'm not quite sure what they changed. In my experience, replacing the nodes sometimes works. Other times the whole method of client or server side controller stuff needs to be reworked. Usually it just takes a bit of tinkering. Luckily this part of the menu system is very basic and really just there as an example. Most of this project's work is in the UMG and online sessions part.

It could also be the UMG Controller plugin. So many people have been having problems with it, that I'm considering removing the plugin. I'm not sure if anyone knows how to fix it. A quick glance at the plugin's forum page will show you the various issues people report. Personally, it's always worked for me but people are reporting problems. I've not tested it further outside of my own personal setup. https://forums.unrealengine.com/community/community-content-tools-and-tutorials/58523-gamepad-friendly-umg-~-control-cursor-with-gamepad-analog-stick-easily-click-buttons

For example, like maybe 10 versions ago they changed some stuff with physics and I had one heck of a problem getting physics actors to ragdoll again without weird problems. I had to completely rework how I did that. My guess it probably just needs the node replaced possibly.

Thank you for going through this and seeing what things are the hangups on this release. I've been waiting (I guess fuitlessly) for the new online framework to come out since I don't want to re-invent the wheel. But I guess it won't come out till next year now. I thought it'd be out in July 2019.

Goodluck with your project! Sorry I can't be of too much help.

ITACHI · Sep 24, 2019, 5:43 AM

@thaddeus @thaddeus I'm gonna do some research and see if I can figure out a different way of getting it to work since it's almost work exactly as it should I didn't end up using the UMG plugin for 4.23 since I don't think it's released yet I'm gonna go through another version and see if that is the problem or if I've maybe missed a part

ITACHI · Sep 24, 2019, 6:34 AM

@thaddeus Turns out the issue was a small mistake on my part. I was using a GameModeBase instead of GameMode

Thaddeus · Sep 25, 2019, 7:15 AM

@itachi I'm glad you were able to figure it out. Thanks for reporting back

Guest · Jan 30, 2020, 4:53 PM

When trying to 'Generate Visual Studio' part for UE4.24, I am getting this error "'UnrealBuildTool.UnrealTargetPlatform' does not contain a definition for 'HTML5'
ERROR: Unable to compile source files.". Googling, this 'HTML5 feature' is no longer supported in 4.23... So, perhaps a new version is needed for being able to use in 4.23+ versions? I would really appreciate it if this could be done

Thaddeus · Feb 1, 2020, 6:58 PM

said in Community Project | Cardinal Menu System Instructions, Help, and Discussion:

When trying to 'Generate Visual Studio' part for UE4.24, I am getting this error "'UnrealBuildTool.UnrealTargetPlatform' does not contain a definition for 'HTML5'
ERROR: Unable to compile source files.". Googling, this 'HTML5 feature' is no longer supported in 4.23... So, perhaps a new version is needed for being able to use in 4.23+ versions? I would really appreciate it if this could be done

The menu has pages under the About section called Our Organization Game Homepage and Donate that load webpages. My guess is these pages along with the web browser plugin are what is causing the issue. I'd have to look into it further to know for sure.